The fire pit below belongs to Mike DeVito in Northern California. When I saw his idea I was excited to help him create something new and wonderful. He took a very old mining cart in his front yard and we helped him convert it to a propane burning fire pit! Turned out pretty cool! Next he is getting a fire pit cover made to cover it from debris and who else knows what.
We use a FPPK (fire pit propane kit) with valves, thermo coupler, pilot light and air mixer. The glass that was use is:
and of course our Diamonds in Clear, Pink, Amber and Blue.
Here you see the controls, air mixer and thermo coupler and pilot light lines under the base plate
You can use a larger (3/4", 1" lava) as a base under our 1/4" crushed lava as this will save you a few dollars.
Now we pour on the crushed lava to keep the glass from sinking into the larger lava.
Our products do not require any certification from the AGA, CSA or UL as it is considered a stand-alone product by these agencies. We are told that we would need a certification if sand and or lava rock would need certification. The agencies are franchise operations and they are privately owned and they are not a government agency. These agencies are hired for mass production testing and AGA, CSA and or UL do not certify custom one of a kind projects. Custom burners need no certification as this only applies to production equipment. Just so you can understand that a certification costs about $15,000.00 and certification was developed for production/ mass production to assure quality. Any parts that would normally need AGA or UL do in fact have these approvals. Parts with function need and should have some sort of approval. The pan burners we sell that do have UL, CSA and or any other listings are produced by other companies. The custom pan burners that we produce are just that, custom. Therefore do not require UL, CSA and or any other agency listings as these are custom. The parts that we use to build these pans are UL, CSA listed as they should be. We would never use any “Third World Country” or any unlisted, untested parts to build any products and or parts to endanger any product performance what so ever.
The burner below is one of our FPPK's (fire pit propane kit). With this FPPK we set it up for Black Magic! This was table tested for the pictures. Hopefully the customer will send us pictures after and during installation. We first sent these pictures for the customers approval. Here you go! The pan below belongs to Scott Spector and he finally installed the fire pit in his back yard, WOW, one really nice backyard!
This is one of our propane pan burner with slight modifications.
As you can see around the lower edges it was leaking and yes we did fix this.
The fire pit below was built by Scott Spector in Florida. He started with an FPPK 30 which includes a 30" base plate and a double 24" stainless steel ring. Here we go from the beginning:
The propane line was run/ installed under the pavers.
The colors that were used are
1/2" Clear base,
Black Magic in the center,
Clear Diamonds,
Cobalt Blue Topper,
Clear Topper,
Cobalt Blue Light Topper
and our FPPK 30". That is our 30" propane burner. You can see the actual burner above burning before shipment and installation.
We don't have any pictures of the fire pit burning at Scott's but he did tel us that when he fired it up again he would try to send us a few pictures. Thanks Scott.
The fire table below was built by Christina "Stina" in the San Francisco area. With a little ambition, imagination and our help, she now has one very nice fire table.
Here is where it started. She made a template of the pan and where the mounting tabs would be located. Then we built the aluminum pan and propane burner for Stina to install.
Below is how the teak table started. We just brought it into the future.
Below the pan was installed with Galaxy Green base glass.
Below you can see the top installed and what a difference.
Below is her wonderfully finished project, Great job Stina!
The propane burner conversion below was performed by Richard King of South Carolina.
Richard has one very cool Super Bowl party room! We assisted him in converting a propane fire pit one very nice clean burning fire pit. We will explain as we move along.
Richard: You did a beautiful job on your gazebo!
Here is the fire pit turned up so you can see that we installed one of our FPPK (fire pit propane kit) The tank was under the deck.
Richard may of had a few flex lines that were a bit too long.
It's supposed to look simple when it's finished.
The controls were adapted to his and over his old controls.
Above is on low and I might add no black soot or smoke! You would think the manufactures of these tables would of figured it out by now?
Below is the standard ring but we installed thermo coupler and safety pilot kit.
Below is what were sent to convert. Small flames and no air mixer what so ever. Just a lot of soot and black smoke, seen it before?
Below, not a lot of flame is there? The reason is once they turn it up for you, the soot starts to show. So they tell you it can't be turned up.
Now we step in, air mixed calibrated to the ring and valve system and pilot light and thermo coupler in place.
On medium!
and turbo high and still with a clean burn!
and below is the 2009 Super Bowl Party! Thanks Richard!
Yes, we can convert anything!
The wine barrel below was build by one of our newer dealers in Texas. Matt's Custom Welding. Contact us for information about Matt's wonderful work. We are going to be much more of Matt's work and look around his showroom in the pictures below. Many more projects to come.
There was a steel bowl installed using our propane system to burn our glass. They used Bronze base glass in the fire pit.
Propane Burner Issues
I have seen this scenario all too often. The supplier that you have purchased from only cared about making the sale of the glass. They did not ask what you were doing. How you were doing it. What you were working on, etc. etc. etc. They did not ask if you had propane or natural gas or if you had natural gas close by to use opposed to propane. You are now finding out that there is no customer support after the sale. We are the only manufacturer building one propane burner at a time to suit your needs. We care from beginning to end and more importantly after the fact! We offer customer support FOREVER!
Let me tell you how we feel about these other companies selling products they know nothing about:
You purchased a Ford and now you are going to the Cadillac dealer for advice and parts on how to fix the problems. That is not how it works. We need you to put pressure on the company that sold you the product that does not perform as you thought it should. We will and or can resolve your issues, but you need to make sure these companies stop selling products they know nothing about.
Have you contacted the company that you purchased from?
Have you received any advice from this company on how to resolve the issue?
Are they even concerned about your problems?
Did you disclose to this company what you were working on?
Did this company ask for details about your project?
Have you asked if you can return all of the parts and products because of product failure?
Does this company even have any information online about their success on propane burners?
Did you receive any customer support?
We do genuinely feel bad for the customer being taken advantage of by companies such as these, selling parts and supplies, which they know nothing about.
Please keep us posted on your developments so we may continue to remedy your situation. We are proud of our creations, inventions, customer support, product lines as we do all of this for you, the customer!
This would be step one. Then we would step in and fix your issues.
Rich Favors President, Amazing Flames Northwest, LLC
The next few pictures are from New York by Jai Crandall for Tom Morgan. We can hep transform an eye soar to a place of enjoyment. Just watch!
November 10, 2009
Hello, my name is Jai Crandall and I live in central NY. I have a good friend (Tom Morgan) that has a patio that he generally uses wood to throw some heat for his quests when he entertains. Unfortunately, as I'm sure you know, the smoke can really get to you after a while. This is a very high end home and he entertains for some very important people. He would like to eliminate the wood a replace them with some propane inserts. It doesn't have to look like a fireplace, but most importantly, it needs to throw some intense heat.
Pictures 1,2 and 3 are the front views of the fire pits and as you will notice they are not square ( each picture is labeled with the dimensions), they don't need to stay like they are, so if you want to make them square you can. Just go by the front measurement. Hopefully you can design something that will fit there needs.
I am sure that they are going to want electric ignition, and you can try to place the control valves in the front. Also, with the good New York weather, you want want to have covers for each unit.
Thank You so much for your time and I look forward to working with you to complete this project.
Jai Crandall
July 3, 2010
Now here are the finished pictures on the property. Very nice!
Hey Ed, Here are some pictures of the burners that I installed. They look great and they are very happy with their performance. Also, I believe that I may have a few more people interested in something similar to what I did for Tom Morgan. Have a great forth weekend and I will talk to you soon.
Jai
That's what I said when I first saw the project, YUK!!!! I tried to figure out what to do????
Jai came up with the Stainless Steel hollow base design and we went to work.
This is a happy ending!
Our propane burners were set to 100,000 btu's each for maximum heat. The glass that we used was Bronze Rust Copper.
The next fire pit was build/ constructed by Rose Harms in Wyoming. Long story behind this one with what the plumbers were telling her and what actually happened. We will explain as we go.
Above and below you can see we had her install a gas line with a quick disconnect hose.
Here is what Rose had to say:
Hi Ed and Claudia,
Wanted to be sure I got the photos to you of our completed fire pit.
Here are the steps we went through:
Bought the brick/blocks (no lip on the stones) from Lowe's, put in circle, 3 rows high.
Bought the iron fire pit at Lowe's and placed on and inside fire pit. -note -it is iron, so I sprayed it with HIGH HEAT paint, in Copper. Wow!
got plumber to run natural gas from deck above (outlet for BBQ) and under the deck, ran down the deck post and he put in a Shut Off valve there.
It turns.
He ran a precise hole through the bottom off the fire pit to hold pipe for gas to the double ring burner (from Moderustic of course) and it is stainless
steel (no rust). At the bottom of the deck post is a flexible hose which goes over to the fire pit. It CAN be disconnected or even roll up and
shove inside fire pit (after it is cooled).
Note: you do need to chop off a piece of the block, or else just pull one out when you are using the
fire pit. (Kind of like Jenga -just pull out the stone, the others support the fire pit) Unless you can successfully saw off a piece of the stone.
Lit the burner to be sure it works well. It did.
We put in the 1" lava rock in the bottom of copper fire pit and then filled in the spaces with 1/4" lava rock. Should have used More! When we went to
cover the burner we were short on the fireglass. So we ordered more. Still looks beautiful.
Got rest of glass and made circles with the glass and it is beautiful. There are photos of it burning last night!! Lots of warmth on a typical
cool Wyoming evening.
Brick: $200, Fire Pit $79 on sale, double ring SS burner $126, glass -about $250, gas line -don't know yet but guessing $200. Maybe $750-800 total.
And -the way it is made, we could actually dismantle and move it. No mortar in stones. We are very happy with our fire pit and thanks to Ed and the gals
at Moderustic, we were able to make the right choice for glass and burner. Thanks Ed, Rebecca and Claudia. Very knowledgeable and helpful. Could not have managed
this without your guidance. We love being DYI-ers but directions are needed!! We appreciate all your help.
Rose and Doug Harms, Cheyenne Wyoming
Mind that the customers stacked their own bricks!
The glass that was used:
Clear base,
Sky Blue base glass,
Ford Blue base glass,
Ford Blue Reflective base glass,
and the rest is history!
This was originally going to be propane but if you have natural gas, then use it if you can. It will cost less in the long run.
Here is the answer some of you think you know. (You don't!) These are Air Mixers, Venturis Carburetors.
These like a carburetor on any engine act as the air fuel mixture governor. Have you ever been behind an older car that smells funny? Wrong air mixture! Bad mechanic! The air mixers have to be calibrated not only to the valving but the burner as well. We have been building propane burners for several years now and we have never had an issue with any configuration that we have built, ever. It's the same as porting an engine for proper air flow. If you just STICK one of these on your burner then you may be giving us a call soon enough.
Here are a few pictures of the 1/2" and 3/4" air mixers, (40,000 to 400,000 btu mixers).
If you attach it and create back pressure, you will have a fire or an explosion, guaranteed. We are not trying to frighten you but to make you aware. We believe in safety first and we don't build systems without thermo couples and or pilot light systems, ever!
As you may have of seen on our "How Not To Do It Page" they still screw up no matter how hard they try. We are here only to help!
The portable fire table/ pit below was built by Kris Day. This is a portable Propane Fire Pit and he installed Azurlite base glass. This is a fairly simple project that we can help you build by monitoring and supplying the correct parts. From the start here we go:
From start to finish, propane or natural gas burners with or without a pan, we can help you build your own.
The next fire pit below was built and installed by Kevin Smith.
This is a propane fire pit and we sent the stainless steel burners and Copreci Valve. The burners are and were calibrated to the burner to insure a clean burn. There are so many companies out there who sell propane pans, burners, air mixers along with the glass and when you have any issues, they just seem to run away and leave you holding the bag. We will explain as we move forward.
Above you see the cinder block hollowed out. You don't need a pan, the block is the pan! Too many times we see this situation and the customer is told they need a pan, why? Ohhhh, because the dealer needs your money more than you do!
Below you see the stainless steel burners on a bed of crushed pea gravel
Below you can see the Copreci and air mixer mounted to a bracket on the end of the pit. Remember, the air mixer and Copreci have to be calibrated to the burner or it won't work! There is no magic bullet, it's pure and simple knowledge. Propane Burners have to be dealt with great care.
The glass that was installed was Ford Blue base glass.
Done, simple and nice!
This next fire pit was built by Tim and Sarah, they simply built this with stacker stones and a bit of ingenuity. The used a crushed lava base with Black Base glass topped with Black Reflective base glass. Then they used a Light Amber Topping to create the Fleur De Lis. This was done with a propane valve that we supplied. They used a wood burning fire bowl for the pit. The tank was accessible from the back of the fire pit.
Add the base crushed lava. Note we do not use the 3/4" size? Way to large for the glass as it will fall through. You can use the larger lava and then over it with the crushed lava to save some cash!
Below if you notice the Pilot Light and Thermo Couple just inside of the ring? This is a must if using propane, for safety.
And your done!
Steve Hinojos (S.B. County Sheriff) built two fire pits using propane. One of which was a Wine Barrel Fire Pit and the other a traditional (oopsies on this one!). We will explain as we move on.
We supplied the know how and all of the parts to make his Wine Barrel Fire Pit a success! great job Steve!
We also supplied Steve with the all of the propane parts to make his fire table work properly as well. It's when we got his pictures that we noticed the ROCKS! You can't burn ROCKS, they EXPLODE! This you can see in teh Famous "How Not To Do It" page. Initially he had no problems but once they took on moisture, sure enough he was back for some safe and sound glass!
All in all, great job Steve!
